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Hosted by husband and wife team Mark and Michele Medal, the show dives
deep into what it really means to heal: physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
Through their compassionate lens and lived experience, they hold space for raw, vulnerable stories that explore trauma, transformation, and
the sacred path back to wholeness. Together with their guests, they unravel the layers of healing work
From ancient plant wisdom to modern psychedelic therapies, inviting listeners into a space of reflection, remembrance, and reconnection.
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Join us as we dive into the fascinating realm of plant medicines, covering a wide range of topics from herbs and botanicals to psychedelic substances. Our expert hosts and guest speakers will take you on a captivating journey, sharing insights, research, and personal stories that shed light on the potential of these powerful remedies.
We believe in the holistic approach to healing and the wisdom of traditional practices. Our episodes provide valuable knowledge on psychedelic plant medicines like ayahuasca and psilocybin mushrooms, which offer potential breakthroughs in mental health treatment.
What if the 12 steps helped save your life, but eventually, you outgrew them? In this moving episode, Gillian Lepisto shares her bold journey beyond traditional recovery frameworks and into the world of sacred medicine, intuitive healing, and spiritual integration.
Listeners will explore the deeper layers of trauma, embodiment, and devotion that unfold after sobriety, and how tools like Kambo, microdosing, and ceremony are opening new frontiers in post-recovery healing.
What You’ll Learn:
Why Gillian transitioned from AA to psychedelic healing work
How sacred plant medicines helped her wean off psychiatric prescriptions
The emotional and spiritual process of shedding old identities after addiction
What Kambo is, how it works, and why it’s becoming a sought-after energetic cleanse
The role of ceremony, intuition, and mentorship in trauma-informed recovery
Episode Highlights:
04:01 – From underground parties to profound loss: Gillian’s early journey
09:40 – The “grand sponsor” who introduced psychedelics to the recovery community
13:22 – Gillian’s DMT initiation and awakening in a crystal city
19:48 – Tapering medication with the help of psilocybin and intuitive listening
25:39 – Why Gillian left AA: spiritual expansion, not rebellion
33:15 – Kambo explained: frog medicine for energetic detox and shadow release
38:42 – Honoring grief, identity death, and sacred service
44:19 – Reclaiming trust in yourself after the structure of recovery dissolves
Meet the Guest:
Gillian Lepisto is a medicine woman, mentor, and mother whose personal journey from addiction to sovereignty bridges traditional sobriety and sacred psychedelics. Her work is rooted in trauma healing, intuitive development, and community-led ceremonial integration.
Tools, Frameworks, and Strategies Mentioned:
Sacred Integration Circles
Cambo (frog medicine)
Mama Dose™ Microdosing Protocol
Ceremony-based Fourth and Fifth Step
Devotional mentorship models
Closing Insight:
“I’m not afraid of myself anymore. I trust myself. And I know the medicine lives in me now.” – Gillian Lepisto
This episode is an invitation for anyone who’s ever asked, “What comes after sobriety?” to explore a deeper path of spiritual and cellular healing.
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